Do I need Underworld Races & Classes to use Occult Secrets of the Underworld?
Yes. While the concepts themselves can be divorced from their flavor quite easily, Occult Secrets of the Underworld is intended to be an expansion of Underworld Races & Classes, and as such, references the material.
Last updated: July 12, 2018 17:28
What's up with the whole "occult"-angle?
When Occult Adventures for PFRPG was released, it represented a paradigm-shift for the game; instead of new combinations of previously released material and narrow focuses that escalated the math, Occult Adventures focused on emphasizing player agenda and hardcoded flavor back into the options. This flavor could be easily reskinned, but it provided a first hook for the players and GMs to work with. This book tries to adhere to a similar design paradigm.
Last updated: July 12, 2018 17:28
Okay, so Occult Adventures support for PFRPG. Do I need Occult Adventures to use this book?
While the material makes heavy use of Occult Adventures material, said content is available online, legally and for free, on the various PRD and SRD-pages. The only book you really need is Underworld Races & Classes.
Last updated: July 12, 2018 17:31
But I'm playing 5e - do we just get a conversion?
No! Since Occult Adventures heavily referenced several complex rules-constructions in PFRPG, a linear conversion would not have done 5e justice! Instead, I redesigned each concept and theme from the ground up, making sure that it works for 5e without referencing PFRPG-material.
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So, it's not a conversion?
No! The PFRPG and 5e-version, while sporting roughly the same ideas, differ radically in the implementation of the content. They are, in essence, two different books that happen to share the same core-ideas. That’s how I wrote them.
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Can you give us an example or two?
Well, there obviously in no warlock class in PFRPG, and I really wanted new warlock tools in 5e, so some material I wrote for 5e was translated differently to PFRPG. There also are favored class options for PFRPG in the book - something that does not exist in 5e. Similarly, one PFRPG-archetype is based on the troop type, and since 5e puts a different value on pets, the class option for 5e ended up being pet-less, taking a different angle towards realizing the concept. 5e GMs can look forward to concise rules for the colloid terrain and the 6-step-condition progression for Colloid Melancholia.
Last updated: July 12, 2018 17:31
"Occult" means more than just acting as a shorthand for a design philosophy!?!
Yes, and I am very cognizant of that fact. There is, for example, the “Red River” that connects all, the metaphysical notion that a lot of creatures bleed red and thus, share a common bond; there is a class option that ties into self-augmentation, dabbling in Transhumanism…just for gnomes instead!
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Can I use the class options without this flavor?
Yes. It’s easy enough to divorce the metaphysical underpinnings from the material herein.
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Do I have to know these concepts/philosophies/weltanschauungen to get the most out of this book?
No! Consider them to be optional notions that can enhance the roleplaying experience, but are not required.
Last updated: July 12, 2018 17:31
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